[wesnoth-i18n] tutorial translation

Wed May 16 06:44:25 UTC 2018

Hi all,

Thank you for all the answers, you are really helpful and friendly! :)

What I gathered so far is:
- 1.14 is the branch I should translate for Steam; translations are pushed
every Saturday/Sunday for Steam
- poedit probably does not make it possible to mark something as 'to be
reviewed' but transifex.com does, where at least 3 non-official wesnoth
groups are present for 7 languages, so I'll give it a try (most probably
joining to the one GunChleoc mentioned)
- based on Iris Morelle's messages the release notes and the steam meta
page are just as good candidates for 'first hit' translations as the
tutorial:
https://github.com/wesnoth/steam-meta/blob/master/po/
and
https://github.com/wesnoth/website/tree/master/start/1.14/po/

Thanks again,
  Andris

2018-05-15 8:30 GMT+02:00 Charles <exodia339 at gmail.com>:

> If you want your translation on Steam quickly, target 1.14. I decided this
> past weekend to direct our packagers to push any translation updates to
> Steam every Saturday or Sunday, so players will get those quite quickly
> outside the normal release schedule.
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 4:14 PM András Széll <szell.andris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2018-05-14 23:04 GMT+02:00 Nils Kneuper <crazy-ivanovic at gmx.net>:
>>
>>> The answer is simple:
>>> * You have a mismatch between po file version and game version.
>>>
>>
>> And correct, I really see the difference between
>>
>> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/po/wesnoth-tutorial/hu.po
>> and
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/1.14/po/
>> wesnoth-tutorial/hu.po
>>
>> for the given string.
>>
>> Now the next question - which branch should I translate if I aim at
>> earliest Steam appearance?
>>
>> The Steam version is built against the 1.14.x branch. You can find the
>>> latest
>>> files fur hungarian linked e.g. over here:
>>> https://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/?view=langs&version=branch&lang=hu
>>>
>>> If you used these files you should see most of the strings being
>>> translated.
>>>
>>
>> For the tutorial it is 35% translated, not most. Am I right that the 37%
>> fuzzy strings do not appear in the game or is it just poedit that removes
>> those from .mo files? (There are some real weird changes that better stay
>> hidden until retranslated.)
>>
>> And as a newbie translator: is there any way to make it possible for me
>> to see the newly translated strings in game, while still marking them 'to
>> be reviewed' by some other Hungarian corrector? The fuzzy flag is already
>> used by the system to tell me the original string has changed.
>>
>> Thank you for the quick and detailed answer!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>   Andris
>>
>> Still it can always happen that in a "more recent version" some original
>>> strings
>>> changed that were not merged into the po files yet. Usually we do create
>>> a merge
>>> like this at latest right before release. But between releases the files
>>> might
>>> be out of sync with what your game version displays, it should be "In
>>> sync"
>>> again with the next release.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps you understand what is happening. Since some of the
>>> strings
>>> you translated did appear, you apparently did everything correctly. :)
>>>
>>> Have fun translating,
>>> Nils Kneuper aka Ivanovic
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.05.2018 um 22:04 schrieb András Széll:
>>> > To avoid confusion, also please note that more than 10 other strings
>>> were
>>> > successfully translated and are displayed in the game after
>>> overwriting the
>>> > proper mo file, but not this one.
>>> >
>>> > Good night,
>>> >   Andris
>>> >
>>> > 2018-05-14 21:13 GMT+02:00 András Széll <szell.andris at gmail.com
>>> > <mailto:szell.andris at gmail.com>>:
>>> >
>>> >     Hi all,
>>> >
>>> >     First of all, thank you for this game and the translation efforts.
>>> :)
>>> >
>>> >     I've started playing with the Steam version of Wesnoth and noticed
>>> that the
>>> >     Hungarian translation is far worse than it was years ago when I
>>> last played
>>> >     the game. So I contacted the maintainer who told me he'd pass me
>>> over the
>>> >     rights if I want it as he did not touch it since a while... but
>>> first I'd
>>> >     like to test myself whether I am up to the translation task.
>>> >
>>> >     So now I started translating the tutorial and hit a string I can't
>>> >     translate, can you please help me?
>>> >
>>> >     It's in the wesnoth-tutorial/hu.po:
>>> >
>>> >     #. [event]
>>> >     #: data/campaigns/tutorial/scenarios/01_Tutorial_part_1.cfg:230
>>> >     msgid "Move Konrad next to Delfador."
>>> >     msgstr "Lépj Konraddal Delfador mellé."
>>> >
>>> >     Even though I translated it with PoEdit and it is not fuzzy any
>>> more, the
>>> >     tutorial keeps printing the same English text. My idea based on the
>>> >     01_Tutorial_part_1.cfg is that the msgid contains an extra dot
>>> missing from
>>> >     the cfg at the end of the line.
>>> >
>>> >     Can you help me whether it's really the case and what to do with
>>> it?
>>> >     Or am I working on wrong files? (I was using master branch of
>>> >     https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth.git <
>>> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth.git>)
>>> >
>>> >     Thanks,
>>> >       Andris
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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